Wednesday, June 04, 2008

Boiled Sports Best Sports Venues (# 5-1)

We've addressed it before, but our Best Sports Venues has a few issues that are inherent that we can't overcome. First off, we haven't visited every park, arena and stadium in America. I think all of us have venues that we'd still love to visit. I'd like to see a football game at the University of Oregon as well as in the SEC, for instance. But, we scored the venues in multiple categories and tried to place venues at the top that were the best places to watch a contest.

Baseball parks dominate our top-5...My theory on why baseball parks are the best places to watch a sporting event is simple- The game is simply not as exciting and you'd better have a great place to enjoy it or no one will come. There's a Triple-A park here in Indy that's a lot like many of the parks across America. It's a family-first atmosphere, the views of the field are great from anywhere, it's clean, they have great concessions and broad concourses and the seats are comfy. A baseball game is a conversation event where you go to watch with someone you like being around. That's not necessarily the case for football or basketball because all of that pesky action gets in the way of your conversation.

So, do I agree with every choice in our top-20? No. But, I think the venues are all there for a reason. One or multiple members of the BS staff really liked watching a sports contest there...The top-5 are truly great places to watch a game.

5.
This arena was first built in 1967 and has a capacity of 14,123. Its first contest hosted the Lou Alcindor-led UCLA Bruins versus the home team and the last contest for this venue isn't going to be for a long time. Why? Because it will be drastically updated in about 2 years. This renovation will cost nearly $100 million once it's completed and will actually down size the capacity by about 800 seats. While it's not the greatest-looking facility from the outside, inside it is a great place to take in a college basketball game. The sightlines are excellent and the tunnels are wide for entry and exit. The concessions are a bit dated and the concourses also reflect the era in which the facility was built, but these pitfalls didn't keep it out of our top-5. Mackey Arena is also designed in a manner that the sound is directed at the court and opposing players have often said they can't hear their team mate next to them when the place is rocking.

4.
Another basketball arena is next up on our list. This venue has had four different buildings, but the current version was opened in 1968 and had a pricetag of $123 million. It's been the home of AHL, NHL, WNBA and most notably the New York Knicks. It's been called the greatest arena in the world...and according to the Boiled Sports staff, it's our highest-rated basketball arena as well. Madison Square Garden has a capacity just below 20,000 for basketball, over 18,000 for hockey, 20,000 for concerts and its adjoining theater can hold 5,600 spectators. As a WNBA facility, it will hold right around 5,000 burly ladies (due to heavy partitioning). MSG gets high marks for its tremendous location, great sightlines and gut feeling. Even as a guy who has no attachment to NYC and its sports teams, I still felt like it was a special place...and I don't even like the NBA.

3.
The next venue is probably the most interesting sports venue in our countdown. It's boasts of a train that runs on a wall in left field (that pays homage to the fact that it sits on the old Houston Union Station), a hill in center field, a retractable roof, and one of the oddest-shaped outfields in MLB. It was opened in 2000 and has a capacity of nearly 41,000. The layout of this ballpark is cozy in the fact that the fans are close to the action. It was originally called Enron...which I don't know why the name was changed. Minute Maid Park, home of the Houston Astros replaced one of the eight wonders of the manmade world and still improved upon that engineering marvel. One more noteworthy feature of the field is the fact that it has a natural grass surface in spite of its retractable roof. The architecture is excellent, in my opinion, in the simple fact that they managed to make the building look attractive even though they roof is one of the largest superstructures I've ever seen in person.

2.
The next venue was opened in 1994 and has a capacity of over 43,000. This park, as referenced earlier in our countdown, helped revitalize a portion of its host city's downtown. We're not the only ones who find this park to be a great place to watch a game. Sports Illustrated called it the best park in the majors in 2008. No matter which name you call it, Jacobs Field, The Jake or Progressive Field, it's a great place to watch a game...even if the Indians are playing. Jacobs Field has a nice view of the city over the scoreboard in left field and doesn't have a red brick facade that so many of the new MLB parks seem to have right now. Instead, they built it with an aesthetically-pleasing external structure that looks like well-thought out scaffolding combined with yellow brick and stone. Its hosted an All-Star game as well as a couple World Series games. Comfort, atmosphere and amenities nearly earned this venue the number one spot on our list.

Number One


If you're like me, and you've only seen this park from the outside, or if you're like J and Tim and have watched a game there, you know this park is noteworthy. It's location is great as it sits on the bay of its host city. Its architecture is retro, but not cliche and it can be easily reached by patrons via foot, car, train and even boat. It scored highly in every category except the fact that Tim and J had only visited it once. From sightlines, to location, to comfort to gut feeling, it earned its composite score of 43 out of 50. Like many of the newer venues on our list, it replaced a dog of a stadium (Candlestick) and San Francisco did it right when they built Pac Bell Park (now called AT&T). Everything was thought out, even the advertisement for Coke outside of left field is cool. It took three years for the park to be completed and unlike most parks built in the 2000s, was built without any public funds. There are statues all around the ballpark paying homage to Giant greats...the most noteworthy part of the park, its backyard is named after Willie McCovey (McCovey Cove). The park has hosted bowl games, XFL games (both with a screwy one sideline arrangement), an All-Star game, World Series games and even record-setting homerun games. The guy who set the home run record also has hit the most shots into McCovey's Cove...15 in all. The Giants won't be leaving this 41,000 seat venue for New York anytime soon; they signed a 66 year lease for their homefield when it was completed.

(This is the final installment of the Boiled Sports Best Sports Venue Series...But check back in for the Boiled Sports Readers Sports Venue Poll in the very near future.)

17 comments:

T-Mill said...

I saw a game at Pac-Bell in its first season. It is one hell of a park, and perhaps my favorite among the newer parks in the Majors.

Other palces in my list:
Mark Light Field (Miami Hurricane baseball)
Coors Field
Oakland Coliseum (pre-Mount Davis)
Hinkle Fieldhouse
Kokomo's Memorial Gymnasium (hands down my favorite place to watch a game over any other)

T-Mill said...

How could you guys forget 10-cent beer night when considering the Mistake by the Lake?

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=beernight/080604&sportCat=mlb

Anonymous said...

ugh, i HATED minute maid. definitely one of my least favorite parks. the atmosphere in there is really weird with the roof closed, and it's like a freaking carnival with a baseball game going on. i think this picture pretty much sums up my feelings on the place.

wasn't much of a fan of MSG, either - the location is kinda nice but there's some seedy shit going on around there. a group including my friend bought counterfeit tickets out there from some dude on the street. not very bright, mind you, but still - that stuff doesn't happen en masse around most venues. inside it's alright, definitely very intimate, but the color scheme made me feel like i was in the year 1992. and the only picture i have of myself in the place has an anonymous rangers fan flicking off the camera in the background.

the rest i can't disagree with, although i've only been to mackey of the other three. so out of your top twenty, i've seen 11, which i feel pretty decent about.

loved the series. thanks a bunch for doing 'em.

J Money said...

Travis - I think the old Cleveland Stadium was "The Mistake By The Lake," not the Jake.

Goodness, that's kind of rhymey.

Mo Boiler -- Glad you enjoyed it. This was all Boilerdowd's legwork. And if you've ever seen his little legs, you know that's a lot of work.

boilerdowd said...

Hey Mo, who was playing center when you took that picture? I don't even know if Edmonds could have dealt with such an obstruction.

Anonymous said...

oh ya mackey arena at 5, that makes sense? please try to insert just a tad bit of objectivity in your blog, because the simple fact of the matter is if this were done by a completely impartial board of sports writers mackey arena would probably weigh in somewhere out of the top 100 where assembly hall, you know, the place with the 5 banners, would be in the top 20

Tim said...

For those of you from southern Indiana (you know, where math is optional) you may want to note that attendance is worth 10% of the overall score. It's spelled out quite clearly in the earlier post, but since reading is optional too, I guess you never made it that far.

Therefore, since we've all attended Mackey Arena quite frequently, it scored higher than you beloathed, er beloved Ass Hall.

Thanks for stopping by though. We really appreciate it.

boilerdowd said...

Hey anonymous, not sure if you can read, but go back and ask the person who read our rankings to you to read the intro for you...it might help you understand a bit.

Also, Ass Hall is a piece of garbage. Unless you're at half court the sightlines simply stink and the fact that the arena is dark doesn't help anything.

I think you could make the argument that Assembly Hall in Champaign is a better arena...or the Kohl Center or the Breslin Center, but not Ass Hall in Bloomington.

Furthermore, I haven't seen Alford, Buckner or Thomas playing at IU for quite a while (read as before most current students on IU's campus were born)...You know what else? The coach that earned those banners was run out of town by your people. So, your sorry and extremely played talk about banners won't get a whole lot of run around here.

But, thanks for stopping by.

Anonymous said...

actually we had 2 coaches win more than one national title and i dont care how you qualify the rankings, mackey arena at 5 is garbage

Anonymous said...

mackey arena in front of assembly hall(both) pauley pavilion, cameron indoor, allen fieldhouse, rupp arena and the dean dome not to mention the kohl center, brezlin center, iba arena, i know this is a purdue blog but give me a break, grasping at straws to legitmize your semi historic basketball program. ill say it once and ill say it again, purdue fans have the worst inferiority complex in major sports

boilerdowd said...

We rated them based on our experience. My first tought on Mackey is what I saw most of- games between 1993 and 1997. Based on OUR experiences, OUR opinions, it got into OUR list. Does that make sense? It's an opinion poll of three individuals that have visited over 100 venues.

It's odd that you think that many college basketball venues should be on our list because none of those that you mentioned had been visited by any of us other than Ass Hall (which is still a piece of garbage. That could be, and try to let it soak in this time, why they didn't make our top-20!

I'm positive that one/all would have made our list if we had gone to an event at any of them...but we didn't, so instead of guessing, we'll go with what we've seen ourselves.

J Money said...

I like how we're lectured about trying to be objective (when, again, we've clearly laid out the rules here) and yet this anonymous clown is the furthest thing from objective.

Hypocriticism must be a 100-level class at IU.

J Money said...

I'd also maybe point out that none of our favorite teams or, one would guess, favorite venues actually won out. The Jake came close but for the list to come out like it did, there is no way we could have been anything but objective -- based on our experiences.

Not sure why I'm adding to this since those who come here to bash us have their minds made up already and we have inferiority complexes and a "semi-historic" basketball program.... that's won the Big Ten more than anybody else, including IU.

Also... thanks for drawing a comparison between us and an "impartial board of sports writers." We're no such thing, and never claim to be, but thanks anyway.

And the truth is, watch what you say there... I've heard nothing but positive things from any sportswriter or broadcaster who's done games at Mackey.

T-Mill said...

Boy, you guys sure crapped in someone's cereal with this. I've never been to Assembly Hall, but I have heard terrible things about it even from Indiana fans. Are you sure these aren't the people that have called me biased for not picking a Notre Dame win last year?

J Money said...

It's always fun to come across people for whom a differing opinion from their own narrow-minded one causes their tiny brains to have a short-circuit and simply lash out in anger.

Anonymous said...

i don't think you guys need to defend your rankings, since you clearly gave your reasons from the get-go.
i haven't been to too many places, but i have to rank it this way
1. Camden Yards
2. the big house (sitting in the student section is a pretty fun experience).
3. Yankee Stadium
4. Notre Dame
5. Comerica Park in Detroit
6. The Cell/old Comisky park back in the day
7. the hoosier dome
8. Wrigley field
9. PNC park
10. Mackey Arena
11. Coors field

the worst
1. Shea stadium
2. Ryan stadium for Northwestern
3. Spartan stadium

boilerdowd said...

Mook- I definitely agree w/ you about Shea and Ryan...but I didn't think MSU's was too bad. I think it's your UM slant that did that to you.