Tuesday, April 23, 2013

The Virtual Debate Rages...

If you read H&R, you've seen that Marcius is upset that Purdue will not pay for his Maymester classes that he needs to pass to graduate...so he can transfer.

Elsewhere on the interwebs, a debate is kind of ablaze regarding this topic...and here's the rest of the story:

John Hart requested a transfer for his fifth year as well, around the same time last year...So a few people have taken umbrage with Sandi's situation, including Sandi.  As of right now, Purdue won't be paying the approx. $7,000 that Marcius will owe for his final two classes.  It seems there are right-minded people on both sides of this argument, but I don't think any of them are talking about a few key details.
Who will get the last laugh?

First, once Marcius knew that he was transferring, he made himself pretty scarce.  According to sources on campus, he wasn't at a banquet (not sure which one), and was no where to be found at or around Mackey after his request for release.

Conversely, from what we've heard, that wasn't the case with Hart. His relationship with his teammates and coaches kind of faded out as headed toward the Maymester/Summer school period instead of coming to an abrupt end.  I think this might be the biggest issue.

PLUS, Painter got as close to begging as I've every heard publicly when speaking about Marcius; he really wanted Sandi back...I'm not saying he didn't really want Hart back...but he never expressed it publicly.

My guess is that there's more to these two stories than what we and small time media outlets are seeing.  But one thing we absolutely know is that Purdue owes Marcius nothing, at this point.  And if he's getting on social media and striving to get people to side with him, he failed in at least one case.  Delivery of a message still matters...tact is important...and I'd think that Matt Painter is about as receptive to internet whining as I am to sugar-free/fat-free desserts.

I always saw Marcius as a hard-working guy who didn't have an entitled attitude.  But this episode changes my view of him slightly.  I still appreciate the fact that he worked hard in practice to get better, clearly worked hard in the weight room to get strong and played hard during games.

But, Purdue has broken no rule in this case...and I'd go further to say they haven't even been unethical.  They've hurt someone's feelings; it happens.

I always tell my 7 year old son that if someone doesn't want to spend time with you, give them what they want, and take a step back.  Marcius sent a clear message that he wanted little to do with Purdue or the basketball program; so Purdue merely obliged his request.

17 comments:

The man behind the mic said...

Well put, sir.

conk said...

I was a lil peeved too when I found out Purdue wasn't paying my way, but likewise I sucked at basketball. If maymester counts as part of the previous academic year then he may have an argument that they should pay to finish year 4, but there should be some student loans available if needed.Maybe his die-hard fans can chip in the 7k

WinamacBoiler said...

Maymester definitely does not count as part of the academic year. I say take the 7k and bring the previously mentioned black painted brick to fruition.

Purdue Matt said...

Marcius needs to live with the consequences of his decision.

Wilson06 said...

Agreed. He asked for his release it was his choice to leave and disappear. He is not upholding his end of the scholarship with being absent, so why give him anything additional. Live and learn.

Also, I read some things about this potentially affecting recruiting....Why?

Hey we want to recruit you and you are worried about something that happened when a guy LEFT our program? Nah not a kid we would want anyways if transferring/leaving is on his mind when being recruited.

I still do not care about any of the transfers. I wish them all well, but I will not miss them.

Chad said...

Holy crap! Does it really cost $7k for Maymester!?!?!?

WinamacBoiler said...

Hey - it's worth the premium to dodge taking a nasty class during the regular session when the teachers actually give a sh*t!

BoilerBloodline said...

Did The Cliz leave a comment? Interesting. Agreed, well put.

boilerdowd said...

Conk- this line:
"I was a lil peeved too when I found out Purdue wasn't paying my way, but likewise I sucked at basketball."

made me laugh aloud.

I don't think Sandi sucked though...but you still made me laugh aloud. If I wasn't self-employed and had an office around me, I would have embarrassed myself.

U-P Boiler said...

Now the scuttlebutt is that Sandi was barred from the banquet. Painter's giving a press conference today, and hopefully this won't get any more out of control.

One of the biggest problems is that Twitter in the hands of a kid becomes a weapon. Pre-twitter, a kid complains about something to his friends and nobody knows that he's just acting his age, and a bit immature. Twitter amplifies it and turns that molehill into a mountain.

Boilergal said...

One major culprit of the over-blown nature of this story is Mike Hutton from the Post-Tribune. He was more than willing to jump to conclusions taking Sandi's handlers' words (his "sources") without question. He even claimed that John Hart and Sandi's situations were identical without any other knowledge on the issue. Painter went on to explain the 2 situations and that Hart and Painter had an agreement from the previous spring that he would become a graduate transfer. Now this "journalist" won't take back his claims after Painter has explained the situation. He only links to another basketball writer's Twitter to get Painter's explanation. This guy may be worse than Tom Davis!

Purdue Matt said...

Mike Hutton is definitely a small time hack.

Kyle said...

Oh boo freakin' hoo. Get a federal loan for that you big baby. Or, maybe, since you're transferring take the classes at the new school?

WinamacBoiler said...

I dont' think he can. Doesn't he have to graduate before he leaves in order to be immediately eligible?

Kodiak33 said...

Yes Winamac, he does.

J Money said...

If only there were loans available to students going to college.... hmmm... you know, we could even call them "Student loans." It's kind of catchy.

I'm still paying my wife's and she's 34. And she didn't even play basketball.

WinamacBoiler said...

J - True, but I'm hoping your wife isn't considering a transfer from Money U.

The million dollar question: If she told you she was going to play for another team, would you continue to pay her tuition?

Okay. A bridge too far...